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@Vaati

wolf images are always several layers of images, they're never put together, it's base art first and then all of the apparel on top. so yeah you take those lineart and shadows and put them on top of your markings and clip, that's what either the rule means or at least everyone does, just look at other custom apparel

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@Bone Copy

I think you are also misunderstanding what I'm saying because when I was talking about layers, I meant the actual coding of the site itself rather than the individual .psd files that you download from the CA page, aha, and with that I was solely talking about the base - you can dynamically output an entire SINGLE image in coding from separate files, not just layered overtop of each other like how apparel pieces are separate images but go overtop of the wolf's base image, but actually as a flattened / merged image itself, can be created dynamically through coding.

That's what I was talking about, that there is the potential that Lorwolf works in this same way by taking its three layers of its base (base coloring, shadows, and lineart) and outputting them as a single file through CODING rather than generating it via an art program, where its HTML output looks like a single image, but what's happening in the background is more complex than that. In which case scenario, they could do something like dynamically layer markings UNDER the lineart and shading files without the need to clip them over the image file itself like you do in Flight Rising's skins.

EDIT: Just to be even more clear: the layering effect that I was talking about can be created through scripts like JavaScript, PHP, Python, etc. It's on the coding side of things, rather than the .psd file shenanigans. That's what I was asking if things were dynamically layered.

But, if I can clip lineart / shadow layers over shenanigans without it counting as "altering the base" then that's good at least. It's too bad you apparently have to remove the silhouette for background shenanigans instead of Lorwolf simply z-index layering it with CSS down below the wolf image...

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This coding functionality you're referring to doesn't currently exist on lorwolf :/ The mechanics are quite simple: the user-made apparel is a single .png with transparent background that is layered on top of the wolf. To my understanding, there isn't any more complexity to it. While I'm sure it can be done with coding, it currently isn't done that way on lorwolf.

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@Vaati yes, I understand you, I'm telling you Lorwolf doesn't do that
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Like Husky and Bone Copy said, that coding unfortunately doesn't exist on Lorwolf yet :(

Sorry for the back and forth and misunderstanding!
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@Husky @Bone Copy

Okay so basically, if I clip the lineart and shadow layers overtop of the final image, that won't be an issue with the rules about base altering, since it does not dynamically layer shenanigans? I'm just trying to clarify that this doesn't tamper with / count as altering the base, which is what they said was against the rules?

Also, I'm genuinely really sorry if I'm being extremely frustrating and obtuse. I do appreciate you all taking the time to try to clear things up for me and for your valuable time. Sorry again for just being a hassle. I'm really sorry for being so obnoxious trying to clarify everything, ah. I hope you all are having a lovely day today though!

EDIT: @/TmstrBlmstr - Ah, just saw your reply as well. Thank you for responding too; I appreciate it!

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@Vaati yes, you can and should do that
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It's not annoying to ask, I think we all just wanted to be sure you got it ^^

Yes, I believe what you're describing is correct. You can look at the Glisten series in the shop by Vaylise - some of the lineart is recolored, but since it's all layered over the base art, it follows the rules.

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Ah, okay, thank you again for all of your help, all three of you! I appreciate it immensely, and again wishing you all a lovely day and thank you for your patience in putting up with my Extremely Confused As Heck shenanigans. (Not pinging again because I feel bad enough as-is for wasting everyone's time, ah, I'm really sorry!) And ah, that example actually really helps a lot since that was what I was talking about, thank you so much for that as well! Again, have a lovely day everyone, and please stay safe! <3
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yeah and e.g. White Rusted Piebald has recolored shadows
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