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@Quiche

just was curious when the next approvals would be going through? I had a small rework and (in just a few hours) it will have been 3 days since i re-submitted :) (on top of the 10/11 for the original submission)

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1 year ago

Hello. It has been 16 (actually 17) days since my CA submission and it has exceeded the promised 7-10 days so much and even exceeded 10 business days. I always believed there was a reason for this, but it really has been too long… I mean, compare with the promised time.

I'm wondering when would the queue move?

I can understand that it would be busy dealing with those things as well as training new people for CA work, but if you have to suspend the progress, could you please let us know before hand?

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1 year ago
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@silis @Cealygosa @Vanitatum @DemonLouie @Haunt @LaughingFool

Hello, just to give an update that I am working through the CA queue today and will get back to you individually if there's an issue with your submission otherwise it should be approved over this Friday/weekend whilst going through with CA Trainee.

@Wolfbyte Submission sent back.

@lissajo Re-submissions whilst they can be quicker, still fall back into a 7 - 10 day waiting queue.

@Ambulocetus Hello, as stated in the CM introduction, training for a CA team has begun to help make the queue quicker. Progress on CA queue is not daily as of yet though we hope to build a big enough team to do so. Progress has not been suspended. Unfortunately with your submissions, it has been referred to the Devs for feedback on whether it counts as using a repetitive brush tool. (The leaves) Sorry for the wait, I hope to be back with an update for you as soon as possible. Thank you for your understanding.

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@Quiche

I completely forgot to bring up my other apparel, since it's one I want to use for myself, Portrait of a Demon ? It was submitted before Honey Collector so its at 11+ days now as well

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1 year ago

@Quiche
Hi. Sorry I can't understand?
I don't think it is polite to consider someone's drawing as brush-made due to style or something. I have to admit that I think leaf shadows would be good in scene so I didn't make them detailized.
I just copied the layer of my original leaf layer and adjusted the color of them so that I don't have to do all these again and again. Or if you think it is needed to have every leaf done by hand? Do you mean that if I want to do some graphic design, I could not do some duplicate of what I have done?
Then why sparkling things won't be considered as brush-made? It would be much easier to have a sparkle brush then leaf one, hehe.
Sorry if I sounded rude, being considered as brush-made just make me mad and I think it is rude to me as well ^^

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1 year ago
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@Ambulocetus Hello! No, it's for clarification on whether we allow brushes with repeating patterns as there's a rule about using repeating patterns.

The item has been sent up for me to clarify with the devs, regardless of whether the brushes are handmade or not, if brushes with repeating patterns and shapes are allowed. Sorry if this thought process did not come across in what I said. And whether we need to add to a rule for further clarification on my query.

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1 year ago

It's a shame. I don't know what's going on, but I feel like a gratis artist. First of all, I've never felt so angry when I was still making skin for flightrising. I know quite a few artists, no matter what level they are, who can make their own skin there, and there is only one thing to watch out for: the boss tries them on and decides to buy them. I don't know why you have so many requests for "player custom clothing"? Maybe you're just saying that people who can't draw well aren't good enough to make your costume? You don't even want the people who buy them to try them on before deciding whether to buy them. You just keep vetting everyone's work on the basis of a vague guess.
What's the point? Shouldn't you put these demands on yourself? My dear, cash-strapped friend couldn't even find a few proper official clothes for his Wolf. He even kept the moonstones to expand his gameplay.
This hurts me so much. I'm not a proper artist, am I? Especially after waiting so long to receive the suggestion that you should redraw the 12 templates, which was not even required when I sent this working document. I can't predict when you will be in a good mood and want to update those standards. You even delayed my friend's order for 17 days. You always have a reason.
My love for you, was mercilessly broken.

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1 year ago

I finished my decorations on the 14th of May, I submitted them, and then for a whole half month, until June they didn't. The reasons for the rollback were different from time to time, and there was even an increase in rules. I have to say, it's beyond imagination. I don't dare to do it again because I'm afraid I'll get a whole new reason next time, and it's even more exciting than climbing.

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@DDDFirefox Incredibly sorry for the frustrations, you are wonderful artist. I'm sorry for the issues with this new system as we're trying to iron out the tools that the CA team use to avoid people needing to go to the support team when they notice mistakes and stray pixels, we've minimised sendbacks with tags and grammar issues with the lastest updates, the rulings and keeping feedback as consistent as possible. With the introduction of trainees and going in depth with the rules, feedback is also given to me and I do still need to refer some submissions to the Dev team if I have questions.

If you'd like to discuss your submissions 1:1 I am more than happy to go over it with you without needing to go through the CA queue and I can explain some of the reasoning for any feedback given to you.

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1 year ago

This is just a suggestion. I'm not teaching you anything.
The audit team will review the pixels, which I think is fine, and it is OK to have a more lw style. The problem was that the feedback was broken down into several feedbacks for me. This means I have to open the file every time I get feedback, and although I didn't have the experience of having to edit 12 images multiple times in the previous review, it might be for someone else.
I am concerned about your review, so I am keenly aware of your use of new tools. It seems to be to avoid the more cumbersome workflow that comes with players asking to change images repeatedly. But in reality, the player should be responsible for his own work, and it would be better to provide a more convenient workflow for replacing images in the background. Because that's not the only reason an artist wants to replace an image, you'll always have to re-upload the image. Of course, it's not the same to revise and be beaten back.
Art buyers should be allowed to choose their rights -- which is why I have always stressed that there should be a fitting system, so that each buyer can decide for himself whether to accept everything about a custom piece of decoration, including its possible imperfections.
This is not connivance, custom art itself should be free, inclusive. The artists themselves are responsible for their work, otherwise no one would be asking to change the image. Changing images is an inevitable thing to happen, and auditing cannot completely eliminate them.
Finally, there is the lw style requirement, which requires me to add shadows. I can add for that, but sometimes this rule doesn't apply to all decorations, okay? I think they are subjectively judged, which is ridiculous, why some can pass and others can't. If its universality cannot be assured, I doubt its own existence value.
Anyway, I just think the review process is very confusing. I waited half a month before I was informed to make more detailed changes, and before that the same drawing method had been approved, which was confusing.
Of course, art needs to be polished, but not many artists have the time and energy to do it, and the market will reward you for it, which is why it's important to try it on. I don't like to make too many demands on others, especially when it comes to painting. The limitations of style adaptation will be very big, cannot have this style of decoration all the time? I know what you're probably trying to say is, you can't look good enough without shade, Celluloid. That's okay, I agree with the comments and I'll add them. But this seems to be the proper requirement for official decorations, and at least the system decorations I was able to get myself even included decorations that did not match the actual ICONS, perhaps I can understand. So I really want to ask, why are player cas so strict? I can't even imagine how many decorations you have piled up without reviewing. Is this rule good for both of us? I just think everybody's tired. Maybe you're tired, too.
Please consider my concerns. In addition, I have carefully checked every piece of your feedback, and I will do what the feedback requires to modify.

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