I’m victim of something where people legit breed their own wolves while up for studs. I went through 18 pages (no joke) trying to find at-least ONE stud. I DIDN'T FIND EVEN FIND ONE!!! I know other people can breed with wolves, but I swear I see the children they bred, and it’s the same person who owned the other wolf. Plz disable the person from breeding it while it’s up for stud/brood.

That is already a thing. The wolves when put of for stud are immediately put on cooldown to prevent the owner of accidentally breeding them themselves. That doesn't stop you however from buying and using the stud. @Rosettekdk

@Gaia but you can still do a breeding to your own stud that is listed on the flea market. You just buy the listing yourself like anyone else would. You can't accidentally select your own stud from your available studs list through the normal breeding mechanic but you can go to the flea market and buy your own listing without issue. So it has to be intentional, it will not be accidental to breed your own listed stud.

However, this should remove that listing from the flea market once the breeding is completed. So I'm not really understanding how a person is going through 18 pages of available studs on the flea market and not finding one that they can breed to? OP, are you clicking the View link instead of the Stud button? Are you sorting the listings by Wolves available for stud or accidentally sorting by Wolves available for sale? I'm struggling to understand what is causing your issue. 18 pages is mind-boggling and if you are going through 18 pages of studs listed for stud service and not able to breed any of them then there is a significant issue affecting you, but it is certainly not affecting me, I just bred to the first stud on the flea market randomly as a test and it worked just fine.

@bonibaru I know.. that is a well known work around for accidentally listing a stud or otherwise changing your mind about a wolf you have listed. And it also removes the wolf from the FM. But the fact the wolf goes on cooldown upon listing is done to prevent breeding it yourself while it is listed on the FM. The fact it is possible to buy your own listing doesn't change that

@bonibaru I didn’t view link, I went to the flea market. So I find it annoying that people do this still.

@Rosettekdk I still don't know what you mean, I'm sorry. When you go to the flea market there's two options: View the wolf's bio or Stud to the wolf. You cannot stud from the bio page. Is that what happened? There should be no reason that clicking through 18 pages of wolves you did not find one that you were able to click the Stud button for and actively breed. If so, that is a really weird bug. If someone has bred their own wolf through their own listing it will be unlisted from the market as soon as the breeding takes place. If you're unable to breed from the FM that needs to be reported as a bug.

@bonibaru I just checked, and it was indeed a bug (admin said they fixed it yesterday). But I still say they shouldn’t be able to breed-

@Rosettekdk when you list a wolf for stud service, it automatically is put into the cooldown phase. So as soon as you make the decision to list that wolf, you are committing to losing its breeding abilities for the whole period.

For a breed like Volmyr with long cooldown period that is greater than the 7 days allowed for a FM listing, that's a big risk: if no one buys the stud, you've lost your own chance to breed them when the clock is ticking down on Day 7. If no one else buys the wolf's stud service then at least you still have the option to use it yourself and not take a total loss.

For starter breeds with shorter cooldown the duration of that loss is shorter, but that doesn't mean it's any more appealing for a stud owner to face delays in being able to breed their own wolf themselves. For Volmyrs, not having the option to recoup the breeding yourself would make stud service really unappealing or could drive prices higher as players became a lot more hesitant to offer studs to others.

Even for common breeds, removing the ability to buy your own stud listing would lead some people to refuse to list any of their studs at all or only list the less nice looking ones. This early in the game, when the 5-generations of relatedness inbreeding limitation is still having a measurable effect on players gameplay, that would be unfortunate. Having access to outside studs is a key mechanic right now and attaching a penalty of "you can't breed your own wolf at all if you list it for stud" would negatively impact that.