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Renoisie
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tbh, I didn't know there was a staff page until a month ago. also, some older patch notes have other replies on them, so it's likely they weren't always locked. and oh.
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2 months ago
ardaxia
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@Dakkokki I had my suspicions about the staff page honestly, because the FAQ is in dire need of updating as well. I wonder if it's even possible to volunteer to help at this point... & do not worry about the ramble, I can see you're frustrated and I know you're not alone in that. A lot of older site users seem to feel similarly and yeah, it definitely isn't without reason.

Well, whatever comes of Lorwolf, as long as the site is being hosted, I personally believe the community is what makes it fun, from my short experience here. I've never known a time of regular updates and staff communication so it's easy for me to be like "this seems fine!" haha - and like Damocles mentioned, I come from Arillio, which was literally 2-3 players keeping the site going for years on end, so this place is relatively lively...

I hope you get what you are seeking from this thread, genuinely - or at bare minimum a place to vent your frustrations and be heard by those who can empathize.

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2 months ago
lalierre
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You might genuinely have an easier time with the reality of the current state of the site if you just operate under the assumption that Alaunis isn’t working on the new updates anymore. If she came out and stated that clearly, would you stick around for a while and eventually taper off? Would you grab screenshots of assets you like and then just stop playing? Whatever you would do if she said it, you can just do now and it would probably cause so much less resentment even if it still hurts from disappointment. And then hey, if something does ever come out I’m sure there will be mentions of it on other sites and it will be a fun surprise and you can reevaluate your position depending on the new circumstances.

After the lack of seasonal update, it was clear to me that I genuinely have no reservations about sticking around even if there’s no updates ever again as long as CAs keep getting approved. I totally get that that’s not for everyone, and it’s okay to step away if it’s not enough to sustain you how things are for the foreseeable future ❤️
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2 months ago
Reave
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It would be nice, wouldn't it! We just keep on askin' for them to not just let the place rot and we get nothin'. I wish they'd just sell it, since they clearly don't enjoy the reality of running a pet sim, whose genre requires frequent small updates to survive & skin thick enough to realize that you don't get balancing passes right on the first go & that's ok, just keep tweaking.

I don't think we'll get it, though; we know the site can't pay for itself for a long time now (and probably hasn't been self-sustaining since the Second Silence tbh), we know the devs aren't interested in even the softest-handed feedback (not even critique, necessarily, even just neutral feedback and/or suggestions at all), and now we still have Halloween stuff in the mole market in mid-Jan and no event update for the 4 ~whole entire~ minimal art updates the site was getting a year. I have genuinely no idea if Quiche is still the one approving CA content in the background despite having stepped down as head mod ages ago, or if it's someone else entirely at this point.

I'm gonna ride it 'til the wheels fall off regardless, I've always said that~ My only wish at this point is for more of the community to stop pretending that the devs even want anything to do with this place and stop defending that for them. There is nobody listening to get brownie points from, and you're setting up any new peeps that come aboard for failure, which will make them leave all the faster than they already do. >:P Just let us be honest about the state of the place to the new kids without pretending user run events are the same thing as the site having legitimate updates.
The user run events are beautifully handled and lovely to see! But they can't replace the site getting actual content updates. New players can tell the difference, even if not immediately, and it has made the ones I've talked to and helped out resent this place a lot more than most of the people I know that left after the first big couple of silences.
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As a retrospective, I hope someone takes what works about the gameplay loops here, which are genuinely good but in need of some polish from folks with actual gameplay dev experience and not just a Fun Idea & a Kickstarter account, and makes a game that lasts as long as Flight Rising has. The Petsim community is in a real dire need of someone that understands it & how to run an actual business at the same time, lol.
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2 months ago
Icepaws
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After reading spoot's post, (i had no idea that there would be no more communication), I think that it even short simple messages would be okay. Not just like nothing at all.

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Eliyen
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Up, I really love this side, I put in the side so many times and works, I think if someone want to put the side off, better to find other personel for, but the side isnt dead
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I'd love to know if the site is still going to be updated. The lack of a seasonal update makes me feel like the game is dead. No communication about the change/lack of items really really hurt my outlook on the future of the game. We haven't had an actual update in a very long time. If the game is being put in maintenance mode, I want to know so I can set my expectations. The not knowing makes me more hesitant than if I knew that the game wouldn't be updated, but would still stay up with CA approvals continuing.


I love Lorwolf's gameplay loop. Even with no content updates, this game is still my favorite petsite. Seeing it slowly die has made me so sad. I would cheer if Chapter 2 ever came out, I just wish I had hope that it would.

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lalierre
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@Reave


Why do you keep suggesting we’re trying to hide the state of the site or lie about the devs? And please stop hiding behind concern for new players as an excuse for constant passive and sometimes active aggression towards our genuine takes about the site. New players are in here telling you they get it and are sticking around anyway. Old players are in here telling you they get it and are sticking around anyway. There are also new and old players who don’t like it and left.


No one is lying and saying updates are just around the corner. We tell them exactly what we know and even give them the information to see just how long it’s been since the updates so they know to buckle up for a long wait. We’re just tired of the same rant over and over begging for what we’ve literally been told is not changing, and we’re tired of getting low key bullied both here and off-site for so-called “toxic positivity” for openly stating we enjoy what we have.

I have reached a point where I play as if no updates are coming, and I’ve found that I’m just genuinely okay with that. You don’t have to be okay with it, but acting like it’s malicious or underhanded that other people are is ugly community behavior that does drive off the new and old players that otherwise would stick around for the long haul even without any updates.

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I would love communication, but I know it isn't gonna happen. I've long since given up on the site. It's funny, I genuinely believe posts like this just affirm to Alaunis to never speak to us again, because since we're not ALL quiet and graciously accepting the nothing we're being given, therefore nobody deserves updates (this is SARCASM in case my tone didn't come across well enough).

I'm glad other people can enjoy it for what it is now. Good for you! If you enjoy the game, don't bother pinging me to tell me how much you like it, because that won't make me spontaneously decide "you know what? actually this is all okay!" Actually probably just stop reading because you won't like the rest of my post LOL.

I played when updates were happening, so to me going from having updates to literally nothing is a bit sad. Sad as in "it makes me feel emotionally sad" not sad as in "pathetic" so don't twist my words.

Call it selfish, but this was the first site I actually felt like an important user on- I made CA, people DM'd me for buying wolves bc I had a reputation for buying palis, I helped run the secret santa user event we did one year, and had a lot of fun talking with people in the discord. So I really wanted this site to succeed, because on every other petsite I'm a total nobody. I was too late to FR to get anything worth noting, too late to PCE to get cats with good IDs, too late to pawborough to get the luna stones- but I wasn't too late for lorwolf. And now it's this. I foolishly keep my LW kickstarter stuff and decent wolves (like my triple) because for some reason I still have hope this game won't be like this forever, and honestly that stuff will likely die with my account before I sell it off.

I would be fine if Alaunis never talked to the community again- if the site actually got updated with more than just the items users are creating themselves. Approving CA isn't the same as progressing the story. It's just getting users to do the work for you.

Anyways time to log off for another several months. I'd say see y'all at the next event but it won't have anything new either.

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Hmm.. maybe there's something big coming? Unlikely though.
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