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Cinistello
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I hope its okay to piggyback off your post as a general update discussion place-


I'm not sure how I feel about the campaign change.. I don't campaign for the drops, I campaign to train my fodder that I produce in massive quantities thanks to 24hr nesting! I also only bother to do that every handful of days when I have the energy to just spam through since I have a stockpile of food. I watched to see if auto explore gives exp but it doesn't so its just more nerf than benefit imo. I might have to actually start releasing wolves without being leveled first to handle the change since I just don't have the kind of motivation to campaign multiple times a day and may end up with my dens overfilled with puppies lol. I'm going to feel the guilt of being "wasteful" as wolves don't enter the knucklebone token factory but I'll probably get used to it over time and just enjoy the free drops/pebbles from auto explore

so much complain but I'm so happy to see updates and I'm happy to see the wolves level on their portraits in campaign now!!

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Unfortunately, this is 'by design' and is intended to curb the botters, but it's going to mess this whole thing up for the rest of us regular players.


The compensation is 'auto exploring' and all we get is this after ten minutes:


Shameful.

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omg what?! WHAAAAAaaaa?

This came out of nowhere, I'm hyped to explore the update!

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@Cinistello @Fangs - Ahh, okay. I had only gone campaigning a couple of times after the update--I was admittedly a little distracted with the other updates and then went to eat and shower and all that jazz. But now I see! I honestly thought the charges tied into the auto explore. It feels kind of silly and redundant to have wolves requiring stamina/eating if they're going to be hindered by the depleted charges regardless, even if they do refill quickly. And yeah, even with my three-star zones and my . . . depressingly large number of encounters in those zones, the rewards netted while AFK are . . . less than meager.

I wonder if we'll see some adjustments made with community feedback? It's honestly really disappointing that botting was enough of a problem that they had to roll this out at all. A few bad apples spoil the bunch and all of that.

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Exactly. Feels like I'm wasting my food just to be locked out anyways. I might just go back to FR because they just have a (sometimes difficult) captcha to deal with.

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I- personally think the campaigning restriction is just not fair for those who have played fairly. Instead of just making sure there’s a meter for everyone, maybe set up a strike system that monitors how people play. Two or three strikes after the system thinks you’re a bot. It could be temporary, in order for it to be fair since systems make mistakes sometimes, and if it’s permanent, and a mistake, people will be angry.


If this system keeps on going though, wild wolves will be considerably rarer, as you can only explore a few times before waiting like a whole 3 minutes or more for the bar to regenerate. And I? I have literally 0 patience and will just give up.


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It's had like... 3 comebacks at this point, so I'm not holding my breath, but it would be NICE if it worked out this time. The site NEEDS a community manager again to act as a proper liaison between JJ & the community though, or it's not gonna work for other reasons. :P

The scaling on the explore features seems to need tuning already, according to folks above me (I haven't tested it, because I have... no... reason to grind anything) which is disappointing given the time it took, but also not surprising given there's currently no Feature QA pool of users or anything to beta test features.

I don't blame JJ for getting initial tuning wrong- there's a balance to strike since it says it doesn't take stamina or charges?- but if there's no tweaking after a week or two and people level up their "zone stars" and still find it unbalanced to the users' detriment and hear no replies from JJ directly, that will tell us the communication is probably not going to be getting better without a comms manager.

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Why not just put in a captcha so regular users aren't punished? It's taking me forever to get through the story quests because of it.
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I've even seen someone claim that FR's captcha didn't stop botting, its just one of those things where you already have a system in place to stop endless exploring, which is the stamina system, so people need to collect food anyway. Punishing the handful of botters isn’t worth ruining the experience for everyone
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@Cinistello it looks like XP increases with stars and/or the NG+ mechanic, so you should be able to level your wolves faster even if you have to take breaks in chunks. I got +171 XP just from recompleting the Darkspine questline, and that's in addition to double XP on regular encounters. Seems like there is a bug in the Goldsea quests though that can lock you out of Campaign so maybe don't try it there yet lol


coming back to edit for future readers: the Goldsea bug has since been fixed!

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