I think we shouldn't have the default sort of the CA shop be price ascending* because I'm worried there's inevitably gonna be artists that sell their creations at a loss by mistake by seeing someone's discounted CA and mistaking it for the expected price of that type of apparel

There could also be concerns with non-artist players who don't off the top of their head remember the price of a CAT actively expecting to buy CA at a loss to the artist by passively always seeing discount runs when they navigate to the page or even harassing artists for having their CA "cost too much" [i've already gotten dms personally with Very low alternative offers which is. rude btw, don't do that and this'll inevitably encourage that kind of behavior further]

[It'll also lead to users mostly seeing smaller CA on the front page that are harder to see on a preview which makes it a less exciting looking storefront that might make people decide that nah, they're good actually which cuts into artists' profits as a whole]

[I also noticed it sends pebble stuff all the way to the back so a new player may assume 'oh nvm it's for people that spend real money' and just never check back again]

Maybe remaining ascending being the default sort could be cute for that excitement of buying the last copy, or newest created as many people suggest, but it doesn't really matter which.

People will still be able to look for the cheapest CA anyway since the option is there, but it won't encourage undercutting at a loss/drive price expectation down as much

There also should probably be a warning before setting your apparel price below 25 MS/250,000-375,000 pebbles saying that you will not break even if you set it so low due to the CAT price [and also so typos are caught]

*I would Really Prefer ascending/descending not be abbreviated to asc/desc for clarity too but that's just nitpicking

support changing this! I think Newest Created should be on the front page personally, show off all the newest stuff! (or making it so the site can save your own personal preference of sorting)

I think a warning for price set would be good but 20ms would be the break-even point (5 copies 100/5=20) but no support to the pebble price being included as the site will never do that because that would be them endorsing a set rate for ms:pebbles vs letting the economy decide it itself

I also would really love to be able to view Sold Out apparel too (as in apparel that has been on the CA Shop at least once before - if someone makes a private CA and keeps all 5 copies, then it wouldnt show up). This allows people to view ALL CAs & be able to message the artist if they are interested in purchasing a copy/seeing about relisting it

@lissajo Yeah, breaking exactly even is 20, but most players would presumably, actually intend to make some profit, and I wouldn't want them accidentally making it so that the CA is an exact wash either

that's a good point for the pebble price though! though maybe it's still good to implement a warning for numbers 3 digits and less since that would clearly be a typo/wrong field at that point

@Reanimagpie @Vaylise @lissajo As of Patch 1.5, the CA shop default page is now Recently Created. I will go ahead and lock this thread and it will be removed from the Suggestion Index. Thank you everyone for this suggestion and your comments.