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Companion Surprise Box

I think a good pebble sink would be a companion surprise box. You open it and get a random companion.

Companions would be weighted percentage wise so more common ones are more commonly opened, however you would also have the chance of getting one of the moonstone companions or the referral companions. The only ones you can’t get from the box would be Kickstarter Companions.

Helps those who feel at odds promoting on Social media while also keeping rare companions rare and draining some pebbles from the site. I’d think like 90,000 pebbles would be a decent start?

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Support for just the idea of a companion blind box in general. I don't really care what the pool would consist of, but I love blind boxes in general so I think it would be fun! And yes please keep it a pebble sink... if it were for MS I can already see people rioting.

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Yeah! No moonstone boxes here. There’s enough usage for them at current, and the chance to get MS companions for pebbles might be a draw.

Also going to suggest the event companions aren’t part of the boxes too, thinking about it.

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Definitely pebbles..! I like the idea, definitely! Consideriing how many super lowvalue companions there are I am not sure how often I would use it, but it seems like a fun thing, and as long as it is pebbles, I don't think there should be any issues with EU regulation regarding loot boxes.

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Pebbles random boxes lezzgoo

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Complete support however I feel at 90k pebbles it might be a better idea to have the 450 pebble companions be rare or not in the box at all.

Otherwise people might be wary of the box if they can get a rodill despite spending 90k pebbles, especially if it winds up being common.

That or have two box tiers, one that excludes cheap companions and one that has the cheap companions but is cheaper.

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I think that 90k is decent even including the Rodill? That would knock some of the 300k companions down significantly. The Rodills are also super useful with hunting and the double stars they provide.

Could start at a lower price though? Maybe individual box levels. Common boxes have a chance at getting up to green and so on, but rare boxes exclude common companions and have a chance at uncommon to legendary? (Within reason. No KS companions would be in any boxes.)

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Not sure if I can support this due to the European law against anything lootbox related... unless the box explicitly lists the drop chances, there might be some legality issues? Many games are already banned in my country for cosmetic lootboxes that you buy with ingame currency (of which you cannot even purchase for irl cash) and don't want lorewolf to be banned over here too :(

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Yeah, I was figuring the odds would be listed out by companion rarity! Like a 25% chance to get say an uncommon companion, or a 30% chance to get a common one. Listing out the percentages is a common thing now a days exactly due to those laws, and it would be ideal to add.

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Definite support for pebble based boxes as we need more pebble sinks unquestionably, that said, while I do feel like any box would need to have a mildly substantial pool to really incentivize interest, putting everything in hypothetical pebble boxes would probably devalue the existing companions pretty substantially from an economic standpoint and have an adverse effect on the value of moonstone companions as opposed to helping the pebble economy. Even if made rare, the Moonstone companions would very quickly become much cheaper to buy with pebbles than how they're valued at moonstones currently. This would upset people who previously purchased the moonstone companions and make it so something entirely pointless to buy with moonstones exists within the shop to tempt people who don't know it's 10% of that price on the flea market. No opinion whatsoever on the referral reward companions, as how they exist right now has no impact on the economy aside from people buying referrals to get them, which is a user made market.

Blind boxes on websites like Gaiaonline where they add old items to their pools (without recoloring them or anything) always severely devalue all the old items added. When a user buys tons of boxes and opens them intending to find a unique prize, old stuff and common items pile up and get resold at cheaper and cheaper prices.

Here's an example, the Dustravens right now, on the marketplace, are 4.4k pebbles. Lets say the Onyx Dustraven is one of the "common" prizes in the 90k pebble box. Even though it cost 90k to get the raven, people are going to want to liquidate that pet to get some of their pebbles back, because the raven doesn't really hold much value. If say, even 10 people buy the pebble box and want to liquidate their ravens, you're going to see all 10 of those people undercutting each other on the marketplace. But in practice, it would probably be a lot more than 10. We would very likely see them selling for exactly 1 pebble over their sell to vendor price almost instantly.

In general, no "common" item from a box is ever going to be worth more than the box itself, without a massive pool, but with the pebble prices for familiars being largely just a quarter of the proposed price to begin with, they would all be severely devalued on the Flea Market across the board by this, and in some cases simply be worth less than nothing. Essentially it's a recipe for companion inflation, and it would make using the mole shop to buy them pointless.

So I would support pebble based random boxes, but not if they included non-recolored, existing companions. There is 0 economic benefit to making existing shop companions cheaper. It's also unfair to anyone who bought a moonstone companion or an expensive pebble companion in the past.

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