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[QOL] Connecting Bloodlines Within X Generations

I've seen some suggestions for a page to see lineage, but this different enough I think to warrant a new thread:

I would like to see a feature that allows us to put two wolves together to see if they're related within a certain set of generations (I don't know how Lorwolf does it but I would assume there has to be a limit where two wolves are distant enough in the family tree to breed).

Right now what we have is either a) to check within the our own den with currently adult wolves in the breeding screen, or b) to preview two breeding compatible wolves in the demo to get a note on if they're too closely related to see previews for.

This bloodline feature would help with two things:

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It would be for any pair of wolves, not just breeding compatible.

So I could know if Wolf A and Wolf B are related, even though both can give birth, so I don't try to make future plans to say, use an offspring of Wolf A to breed with Wolf B, only to find they can't after the time dedicated (or, alternatively, if Wolf A and Wolf B are both a wolf that can gift birth and I want to change the sex only for breeding purposes, then to find out afterward they can't be paired, I would once again, have wasted time and resources [and possibly actual money])

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It would help would be for lore.

It can be fun to write bits for wolves that are related, and it's good to know. I have a handful of wolves that are somewhat related, but due to the limitations I might know Wolf A is related to Wolf B and Wolf C, but not if Wolf B and Wolf C are close enough to be related to each other. AND since the only way to check is through clicking the parents names, and then hopefully clicking to the right set of Parents/Sibling to connect the type of relation the wolves in my den might have to one another, it becomes very troublesome and nearly impossible to track.

For those who play Flight Rising, there is a feature just like this called Assay Bloodlines. Its measured by seeing if, within 5 generations, two dragons share an ancestor. Again, not quite sure on the limits here, but something akin to that I think would offer practical (breeding/projects/etc) and simply fun (lore writing/roleplay/etc) benefits to the game.

Thank you for taking the time to hear me out.

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5 generations. I tested it with the Demo using my progen and any pups until it came up with a Demo of pups instead of "too closely related" also I don't understand what you mean to "have a feature" as the Demo and breeding screen do both say if they're within that 5 generations of each other.
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@Frostine

Ohh, good to know how many generations. And I mainly mean to add a feature allowing us to check wolves that cannot breed together.

I have a several wolves that are related to others within my dens. For example: Kino is related to Bluelight and Obscurity, but I cannot tell without a lot of digging and luck, if Bluelight and Obscurity are related. Not unless I either do a sex change or have one of them have pups and put the appropriate one in the demo to check if they are. Maybe they're also related, or maybe they're not on the same branch that forms either of them to Kino, but because they couldn't breed together I can't tell. And I think it could be helpful to know ahead of time, so if I did get a sex change scroll or wanted to pair one with the offspring of the other I wouldn't be wasting my time vs if I just plugged them into a check-if-related button.

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Ah yeah I guess because you can't check same sex wolves if they're related or not through Demo. And to check back 5 generations is quite a lot. I have 3 Pure white wolves 2 male and a female and can't breed any of them because it says they're related couldn't find which relative it was
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This would be great to have, whether rolled into another facet of the demo or as its own thing-- there have been a rise in "the demo said my wolves can breed but they can't!" bug reports lately, and I am sure it's because it's not clearly stated anywhere that changing anything about a wolf and saving it as a "custom demo" wipes all of its associated wolf-number data in the breeding section of the demo itself. :/

Players can "kinda" get around this if it's being used for breeding compatibility checking before sex swap if the wolf in question has a sibling you can sub in to check breeding-compatibility-status... but I really don't feel like a "technical workaround" existing means we don't need an official way to just slap any two dog #'s into an official utility and check if they are far enough removed from each other to breed. Even better if it also lists the offending dog(s), so the player can tell how far away they would have to breed before they could combine two bloodlines.

It's the sort of thing we should really have access to, especially as we have premium items like the sex-swaps existing as an ms item.
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Massive support, this is pretty much a necessity to have, so that people don't have to waste their hard-earned currency to buy and potentially sex-swap their wolves only to find out afterwards they aren't compatible.Personally though, I would be happy enough if they just expanded the demo feature to allow checking two wolves, regardless of sex.

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Definitely support just expanding the demo to let you pair any two wolves regardless of sex -- it'd make things a lot easier.
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Big support, I don’t really do breeding projects myself, but this seems like an essential feature to have. I am sure there might be some limits (ie: lineage tracker for inbreeding only going back so far) on what they can do, but I am surprised to hear you can’t inbreeding check two wolves if they are the same gender, that just needs to get added, I’m surprised it isn’t a feature.
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Huge support. It would be nice being able to check same sex wolves. It would also be nice, at some point, to know which branch they are related to. I checked so many wolves to see where they are related only to get absolutely lost and without result.
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